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he is in touch with the american public, and i'm just hopeful mr. ryan will tell the truth. whether it's about medicare and that it's a voucher program, that mr. romney and mr. ryan, their health care plan will lead to many uninsured and put people back out. preexisting conditions. >> let me just step back just a minute here about your defense of the president's performance. what is your theory? i mean, it was widely panned, and the thing is if he thought as he said the next day that mitt romney isn't telling the truth, that mitt romney is remaking himself, xwr wouldn't he say that on the stage? what went wrong there? >> not in president obama's mind. i was in denver. i was in that audience. you know, as a debater, of course, i've never run for president, but have you to decide do you want to spend all yourime all night long refuting someone's lies about your record or even about your own, and mitt romney is a guy -- i have never seen this before. he has been on two different sides of his own plan, which, of course, he won't explain, so he can have multiple positions about s
he is in touch with the american public, and i'm just hopeful mr. ryan will tell the truth. whether it's about medicare and that it's a voucher program, that mr. romney and mr. ryan, their health care plan will lead to many uninsured and put people back out. preexisting conditions. >> let me just step back just a minute here about your defense of the president's performance. what is your theory? i mean, it was widely panned, and the thing is if he thought as he said the next day that mitt...
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i think they're actually flattering pictures of mr. ryan. and, i mean, the explanation is pretty simple. i mean, he is in the news right now. and we are in the news business. and this seemed like the most appropriate time to do those pictures. in fact, i kind of wonder if we'd done them another time you'd be asking me, well, why are you publishing those pictures of paul ryan, it seems sort of arbitrary when he's not in the news. you can't win either way. >> there was a lot of talk about him being in such great physical shape when he was named to the ticket. that would have been a good time to publish those pictures as well. >> well, we thought about it. for various reasons, space reasons and things like that, it didn't seem like the right thing to do at that moment. and then we held them. and then this seemed like the right moment. >> did they ever have any understanding from "time" magazine that those pictures would not be used? >> well, we had discussions with them about using them back and forth. and there was never an understanding that
i think they're actually flattering pictures of mr. ryan. and, i mean, the explanation is pretty simple. i mean, he is in the news right now. and we are in the news business. and this seemed like the most appropriate time to do those pictures. in fact, i kind of wonder if we'd done them another time you'd be asking me, well, why are you publishing those pictures of paul ryan, it seems sort of arbitrary when he's not in the news. you can't win either way. >> there was a lot of talk about...
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i think the basic belief of governor romney and mr. ryan is that if we allow competition between firms for your business that they're going to get really good at providing services to you that you want, and they're going to tailor plans to customers in ways the government just never does, and that that will produce superior plans that cost less. competition tends to do that in society, but if it doesn't, which i think is one of the concerns that was just raised, then people can choose to stay on the normal plan. so i think -- >> but if the sick people go into the normal plan, right, because they want to make sure they get everything for their dollar, doesn't it create sort of two tiers of medicare, then? >> you know, i don't think that it would because i think what would happen would be that you might find that the private plans that people can buy with a voucher, for one thing, governor romney is going to have a lot of detailed requirements for people. they'll have to have a plan that covers things in a specific way so that if you tak
i think the basic belief of governor romney and mr. ryan is that if we allow competition between firms for your business that they're going to get really good at providing services to you that you want, and they're going to tailor plans to customers in ways the government just never does, and that that will produce superior plans that cost less. competition tends to do that in society, but if it doesn't, which i think is one of the concerns that was just raised, then people can choose to stay...
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and i'm just hopeful that mr. ryan will tell the truth. >> it's a one-shot deal. they've got to get it right on this debate. likely what are they focusing on in their rehearsals? >> well, i mean, joe biden told us he's focusing on paul ryan's economic plan as he introduced to the house last or the year before, because they think that is fertile territory to find a lot of ways to try to paint mitt romney and paul ryan as, you know, against the middle class and taxing the middle class. i think joe biden is going to wrap mitt romney and paul ryan as tightly together as possible and just sort of drop the ryan plan on top it to try to implode the pair. they think that is good ground. as far as paul ryan is concerned, i think he is kind a policy wonk. his problem is he's a numbers guy, and he's up against frankly and i think both runs previous head of the republican party and michael nutter both said that joe biden is a very accessible politician. he tends to put things the way that people get it immediately. he's just got that kind of manner about him. i think that's t
and i'm just hopeful that mr. ryan will tell the truth. >> it's a one-shot deal. they've got to get it right on this debate. likely what are they focusing on in their rehearsals? >> well, i mean, joe biden told us he's focusing on paul ryan's economic plan as he introduced to the house last or the year before, because they think that is fertile territory to find a lot of ways to try to paint mitt romney and paul ryan as, you know, against the middle class and taxing the middle...
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the basic belief of governor romney and mr. ryan is that if we allow competition between firms for your business, that they're going to get really good at providing services to you that you want and they're going to tailor plans to customers in a way that the government never does and that that will produce superior plans that cost less. you know, competition tends to do that in society. but if it doesn't, which is one of the concerns that was just raised, people can choose to stay on the normal plan. >> wouldn't all the sick people go into the normal plan? they want to make sure they get everything for their dollar and -- didn't it the create two tiers of medicare then? >> i don't think it would. what would happen you might find the private plans people can buy with the voucher, for one thing, governor romney will have details for the plans. they have to cover things in a specific way. if you take the plan and you're sick you'll be cover. going forward, we have to remember we have a government, ali, i know this is probably som
the basic belief of governor romney and mr. ryan is that if we allow competition between firms for your business, that they're going to get really good at providing services to you that you want and they're going to tailor plans to customers in a way that the government never does and that that will produce superior plans that cost less. you know, competition tends to do that in society. but if it doesn't, which is one of the concerns that was just raised, people can choose to stay on the...
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then mr. ryan will have two minutes to respond. then martha rad dist moderator will have the ability to drill down and get the exchange going. >> frank, thank you very much. i think it's fair to say there was a lot at stake even before last week's debate. but because of the president's lackluster performance, there's even more at stake. i think the romney campaign would like to see that continue. as for the obama campaign, they'd like to see the trend end. that's why there's so much at stake for this debate. >>> in his first interview since the lackluster performance, president obama is giving advice to his running mate for tonight. he said joe just needs to be joe. as for his own performance, the president acknowledges it was less than stellar. here is how he explained it to abc's diane sawyer. >> well, governor romney had a good night. i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> well, it's not the first time i've had a bad night. but i think what's important is the fundamentals of what this race is about haven't changed. >> that interview
then mr. ryan will have two minutes to respond. then martha rad dist moderator will have the ability to drill down and get the exchange going. >> frank, thank you very much. i think it's fair to say there was a lot at stake even before last week's debate. but because of the president's lackluster performance, there's even more at stake. i think the romney campaign would like to see that continue. as for the obama campaign, they'd like to see the trend end. that's why there's so much at...
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so that's congressman ryan from last night. as for mr. biden, he got tangled in foreign policy, specifically the libya killings. martha raddatz grilling him on security shortcomings in the administration's initial claim that the deadly attack was likely a spontaneous reaction to that anti-muslim youtube clip. >> why did that go on for weeks? >> what we were told -- >> by whom? >> by the intelligence community. the intelligence community told us that. as they learned more facts about what happened they changed their assessment. that's why there's also an investigation headed by tom pickering, a leading diplomat from the reagan years who is doing an investigation as to whether or not there are any lapses, what the lapses were, so they will never happen again. >> they wanted more security there. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. >> keeping them honest, there is now sworn testimony that the request was, in fact, made. the former regional security officer in libya second from the left there, telling a congressional committee that h
so that's congressman ryan from last night. as for mr. biden, he got tangled in foreign policy, specifically the libya killings. martha raddatz grilling him on security shortcomings in the administration's initial claim that the deadly attack was likely a spontaneous reaction to that anti-muslim youtube clip. >> why did that go on for weeks? >> what we were told -- >> by whom? >> by the intelligence community. the intelligence community told us that. as they learned more...
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especially on mitt romney's infamous 47% remark. >> mr. romney's a good man. >> reporter: ryan was ready with a well-practiced retort. >> with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> i always say what i mean. >> biden's recovery plan for a demoralized democratic base was not just in what he said but what he did. >> in spate of their opposition -- >> oh, gosh. >> the president was criticized for not interrupting. biden jumped in constantly. >> as a result of this -- >> it's not -- >> what we're saying. >> but -- >> mr. vice president. >> the president was slammed for nodding as romney spoke. >> biden used the split screen to give a running commentary of disapproval. with his facial expressions. ryan had a zinger ready for all that, too. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground. but i think it will be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> for 3409 minutes voters saw two dramatically different visions
especially on mitt romney's infamous 47% remark. >> mr. romney's a good man. >> reporter: ryan was ready with a well-practiced retort. >> with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> i always say what i mean. >> biden's recovery plan for a demoralized democratic base was not just in what he said but what he did. >> in spate of their opposition -- >> oh,...
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your ford dealer. >>> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost groun -- lower tax rates increase growth. >> now you're yak kennedy? >> a battle of the minds among other things. congressman paul ryan and vice president joe biden go head-to-head in the only vice presidential debate. we dig into the facts and fictions. >> malarkey, conflating, laughing, shirtless. just a few of the top search terms on google during last night's debate. we have google's election team live on the show this hour. welcome back to "early start" we're happy you're with us. i'm zoraa sambolin. >> and i'm john berman. it is friday, finally, october 12th. >> poor guy. he's been up all night. so no one had a bad night. maybe you. >> except for me. >> neither candidate was too polite during last night's bruising debate. there was no knockout punch. but the two vice presidential candidates did manage to land some telling blows. joe biden, the aggressor. paul ryan the cool, counterpuncher. >> here is how you
your ford dealer. >>> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost groun -- lower tax rates increase growth. >> now you're yak kennedy? >> a battle of the minds among other things. congressman paul ryan and vice president joe biden go head-to-head in the only vice presidential debate. we dig into the facts and fictions. >> malarkey, conflating, laughing, shirtless. just a few of the top search terms on google during last night's debate....
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joe biden, paul ryan. they really went at it, especially biden. here he is, mr. fact check, joe biden, challenging congressman ryan on ryan's medice plan. >> this is a plan that is bipartisan. it is a plan i put together with a prominent democrat senator from oregon. >> there is not one democrat who endorses it. not one democrat who signed the plan. >> my partner is a democrat from oregon. >> he says he no longer supports your plan. >> we put it together with the former clinton budget director. >> and so it went. but now all of a sudden we have mitt romney checking joe biden's facts concerning the consulate attack in libya. and this is something you haven't yet heard. this is mitt romney speaking just a short time ago, here he is in richmond, virginia, you need to hear this. mitt romney. >> the vice president directly contradicted the sworn testimony of state department officials. he's doubling down on denial. and we need to understand exactly what happened. when the vice president of the united states directly contradicts the testimony, sworn testimony of state
joe biden, paul ryan. they really went at it, especially biden. here he is, mr. fact check, joe biden, challenging congressman ryan on ryan's medice plan. >> this is a plan that is bipartisan. it is a plan i put together with a prominent democrat senator from oregon. >> there is not one democrat who endorses it. not one democrat who signed the plan. >> my partner is a democrat from oregon. >> he says he no longer supports your plan. >> we put it together with the...
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>> ryan was able to fire back with a few zingers of his own. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for the lost round -- >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way -- >> republicans in the post debate spin room tried to make the case that biden failed not only on style. >> i was embarrassed for the vice president. the laughs, we counted 82 times that joe biden interrupted paul ryan. >> but also on substance, declaring victory for his running . >> because the vice president directly contradicted the sworn testimony of state department officials. he is doebling downubling down on deny. >> back in the spin room they said it was ryan who was unprepared. >> he got past ryan's talking cards and points. >> reporter: now after their event this evening they will be splitting up and cris crossing various points of ohio, and after that mitt romney will be going into debate prep, wolf he has been campaigning sign by side with rob portman continuously over the la
>> ryan was able to fire back with a few zingers of his own. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for the lost round -- >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way -- >> republicans in the post debate spin room tried to make the case that biden failed not only on style. >> i was embarrassed for the vice president. the laughs, we counted 82 times that joe biden...
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they have paul ryan already as the winner. do you agree with these polls? >> not that one, i certainly don't. joe biden, the vice president biden is a great guy. he has a big heart and will tell the truth tonight, which is going to, i think, really expose to the nation the extreme positions of this paul ryan and his budget. a budget that, by the way, governor romney has called a marvelous budget. but, don, it's a budget that will begin the privatization of social security, voucherizing medicare. cutting pell grants, all those things. >> governor, we have a short time together. i just want to stick to the debate and not the talking points when it comes to what they're going to say. let's stick to the question at hand. >> okay. >> i notice you said he's going to be telling the truth tonight. in essence, were you saying last time that mitt romney was lying? >> well, he was certainly less than honest. and you can use whatever word you want to use to describe that. but mitt romney told things that were absolutely untrue during the first debate and i hope that's
they have paul ryan already as the winner. do you agree with these polls? >> not that one, i certainly don't. joe biden, the vice president biden is a great guy. he has a big heart and will tell the truth tonight, which is going to, i think, really expose to the nation the extreme positions of this paul ryan and his budget. a budget that, by the way, governor romney has called a marvelous budget. but, don, it's a budget that will begin the privatization of social security, voucherizing...
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joe biden versus paul ryan. cnn's live coverage begins at 7:00 p.m. eastern. >>> so people all over the country have the heat turned on a little earlier than expected this week. so rob marciano in atlanta, when will it feel like fall again? >> well, it does, right? i think a lot of people, october 15, for my father it was november 15, but october 15 is the time you turn it on and it is early this time of the year. you're right. waynesburg, pennsylvania, 21. waukesha, 26 degrees. we are in some cases 20 degrees below average as far as temperatures are concerned. 36 right now in minneapolis. 36 degrees in kansas city. 42 in chicago. you had a mild, windy day yesterday, but things are changing. we've got multiple pulses of cool air coming down from canada. and not one but two or three shots of it coming through. 10 to 15 degrees below normal with this little clipper coming through today with some rain. on the backside is cool rain in places like minnesota and michigan seeing temperatures in the lower 40s with a lit
joe biden versus paul ryan. cnn's live coverage begins at 7:00 p.m. eastern. >>> so people all over the country have the heat turned on a little earlier than expected this week. so rob marciano in atlanta, when will it feel like fall again? >> well, it does, right? i think a lot of people, october 15, for my father it was november 15, but october 15 is the time you turn it on and it is early this time of the year. you're right. waynesburg, pennsylvania, 21. waukesha, 26 degrees....